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Maybe, but more immediately it’s to ensure that he cannot run again in 2024. If the impeachment ends in conviction, he cannot be president in the future. Their biggest fear is that people will be so disgusted by Biden/Harris's actions that voters will easily re-elect Trump in either the next cycle or the one following.
I don’t think enough Rs will be willing to self destruct just yet, aside from mittens Romney, Collins and maybe few more. I’m not sure they’ll get to the 67 number...The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:26 pmMaybe, but more immediately it’s to ensure that he cannot run again in 2024. If the impeachment ends in conviction, he cannot be president in the future. Their biggest fear is that people will be so disgusted by Biden/Harris's actions that voters will easily re-elect Trump in either the next cycle or the one following.
TAM, I agree that this is the purpose of it, their fear that he will run again. I don't think he would even without the impeachment. It would make much more sense to me for him to be the "king-maker" by endorsing and campaigning for someone else. He could almost guarantee that who he says to elect would be elected, and the stupidest part of the Democratic revenge is that it makes him even more powerful this way. Go ahead and make him a martyr to his cause and see how many people vote for his candidates.The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:26 pm Maybe, but more immediately it’s to ensure that he cannot run again in 2024. If the impeachment ends in conviction, he cannot be president in the future. Their biggest fear is that people will be so disgusted by Biden/Harris's actions that voters will easily re-elect Trump in either the next cycle or the one following.
There are quite a few people making the argument that he shouldn’t or can’t be impeached because he’s a former president. I think I heard someone talking about there only being a single case in history where there was a former political figure impeached after they’d left office.parabellum wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:55 pm Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t there a subtle issue that for them to impeach Trump and for it to stick, he actually has to be a sitting President. Right now, he’s just a private citizen, so that will be another constitutional hurdle. Not to mention the clearly partisan “presiding officer” rather then Justice Roberts....
powerboatr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:02 pm I pasted the following from the Unites States Constitution.
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
The above is from article ONE section 3 of our constitution. notice it states the the CHIEF JUSTICE SHALL PRESIDE.. shall is definitive. its not maybe or perhaps or could . Its mandated as SHALL.
so how in the clear blue sky is senator patrick leahy going to be the presiding justice???
YES but the document we hold dear does not give supreme court chief justice the option to not preside. the constitution is very clear . chief justice SHALL preside. this is the problem, one side only wants the law of land followed when they are not in power. Its up to us to hold then to the fire and pressure.Jusme wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:32 pmpowerboatr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:02 pm I pasted the following from the Unites States Constitution.
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
The above is from article ONE section 3 of our constitution. notice it states the the CHIEF JUSTICE SHALL PRESIDE.. shall is definitive. its not maybe or perhaps or could . Its mandated as SHALL.
so how in the clear blue sky is senator patrick leahy going to be the presiding justice???
Because Trump is no longer a sitting president. He is being impeached as a private citizen. Roberts, could have presided, but he has gone full libtard, and recused himself.
