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Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:23 am
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Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:23 am Just like if I choose to wear a mask, why would I care if the next person does so? JMHO
The reason there are people who want others to wear a mask is that a mask does not protect the wearer, it is suppose to keep the wearer from accidentally spreading the virus to others through their spittle.
I disagree.

I think that they are ashamed, that they have been snookered by the controllers, and don't want to be the only ones with an outward example, of their sheep mentality.

How many Jews in Europe, turned in other Jews who refused to wear the star of David?

There will never be enough control, for the tyrants, why else do you think they decided that one mask is not enough? Now two masks will be better. I have seen no evidence that wearing masks, staying home, social distancing, closing schools, or anything else has slowed the spread, of a virus that has a 99.8% survivability rate. Now, even with vaccines, they still insist that we wear masks after getting it. MSM continues it's panic porn, by spreading fear about side effects.
I'm through playing their game.

JMHO
Your response has nothing to do with what I said. Regardless of who or why people have been lead to believe it, The reason there are people who want others to wear a mask is that a mask does not protect the wearer, it is suppose to keep the wearer from accidentally spreading the virus to others through their spittle. It has nothing to do with shame. It is about self preservation and what they feel needs to happen to achieve it.
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The key phrase, is SUPPOSED TO. We have been "told" that wearing masks, will protect us. There is no evidence, that people who have worn masks, social distanced, stayed home, etc, contracted the virus at a lower rate, than those who did none of those things.

The initial predictions for spread, match almost exactly what we have, despite any precautions. In fact, we were initially told, that wearing masks, was not going to make any difference, until political pressure by the left made Fauci change his mind. JMHO
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Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:25 am The key phrase, is SUPPOSED TO. We have been "told" that wearing masks, will protect us. There is no evidence, that people who have worn masks, social distanced, stayed home, etc, contracted the virus at a lower rate, than those who did none of those things.

The initial predictions for spread, match almost exactly what we have, despite any precautions. In fact, we were initially told, that wearing masks, was not going to make any difference, until political pressure by the left made Fauci change his mind. JMHO
I believe that this article supports your comments:
Chaffetz & Saphier: Widespread COVID panic – here's how the left misused science to gain political power

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covid-p ... le-saphier
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Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:25 am The key phrase, is SUPPOSED TO. We have been "told" that wearing masks, will protect us. There is no evidence, that people who have worn masks, social distanced, stayed home, etc, contracted the virus at a lower rate, than those who did none of those things.

The initial predictions for spread, match almost exactly what we have, despite any precautions. In fact, we were initially told, that wearing masks, was not going to make any difference, until political pressure by the left made Fauci change his mind. JMHO
NO Dr. EVER claimed that wearing a standard cloth or paper mask would protect "us" from GETTING Covid. What they have said was that wearing a mask helps to protect "others" by decreasing how far our Covid carrying spittle would travel. The reasoning was/has always been that the Corona virus can ride along with our spittle from talking, coughing or sneezing. The mask is suppose to keep the spittle from venturing out as far as it would with no mask. This theory is the very reason there is a "mask controversy" to begin with. If any Dr. believed a cloth or paper mask would protect a person from GETTING Covid, then there would be no issue. Want to protect yourself? "wear a mask". If you aren't afraid of Covid, don't wear a mask. But that is not the issue at all. The issue is, "wear a mask so you don't transfer as much Covid virus to others". So the perception of one not wearing a mask is that they don't give a crap if they spread Covid like Typhoid Mary.
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Has anyone else also noticed that the worst drivers are also the same people who wear a mask while driving alone in their vehicle?
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:36 am
Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:25 am The key phrase, is SUPPOSED TO. We have been "told" that wearing masks, will protect us. There is no evidence, that people who have worn masks, social distanced, stayed home, etc, contracted the virus at a lower rate, than those who did none of those things.

The initial predictions for spread, match almost exactly what we have, despite any precautions. In fact, we were initially told, that wearing masks, was not going to make any difference, until political pressure by the left made Fauci change his mind. JMHO
NO Dr. EVER claimed that wearing a standard cloth or paper mask would protect "us" from GETTING Covid. What they have said was that wearing a mask helps to protect "others" by decreasing how far our Covid carrying spittle would travel. The reasoning was/has always been that the Corona virus can ride along with our spittle from talking, coughing or sneezing. The mask is suppose to keep the spittle from venturing out as far as it would with no mask. This theory is the very reason there is a "mask controversy" to begin with. If any Dr. believed a cloth or paper mask would protect a person from GETTING Covid, then there would be no issue. Want to protect yourself? "wear a mask". If you aren't afraid of Covid, don't wear a mask. But that is not the issue at all. The issue is, "wear a mask so you don't transfer as much Covid virus to others". So the perception of one not wearing a mask is that they don't give a crap if they spread Covid like Typhoid Mary.


There is also the "perception" that if I carry a gun, I want to get into a shootout with someone, and don't give a crap, about shooting innocent people. These "perceptions", are spread by those who wish to control others. I would like the party of "science" to definitively prove, that if I wear a mask, among everyone else wearing a mask, there is no chance of the virus spreading. JMHO
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Bitter Clinger wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:55 am Has anyone else also noticed that the worst drivers are also the same people who wear a mask while driving alone in their vehicle?
OH MAN! That is my all time favorite. The first time I saw that I tried to get a cell phone picture but the driver spotted me trying to get the picture and sped off. I witnessed two older ladies in a Mexican food restaurant wearing masks while eating. I kid you not, they would pull the mask down, take a bite and then pull it back up again.
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Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:58 am
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:36 am
Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:25 am The key phrase, is SUPPOSED TO. We have been "told" that wearing masks, will protect us. There is no evidence, that people who have worn masks, social distanced, stayed home, etc, contracted the virus at a lower rate, than those who did none of those things.

The initial predictions for spread, match almost exactly what we have, despite any precautions. In fact, we were initially told, that wearing masks, was not going to make any difference, until political pressure by the left made Fauci change his mind. JMHO
NO Dr. EVER claimed that wearing a standard cloth or paper mask would protect "us" from GETTING Covid. What they have said was that wearing a mask helps to protect "others" by decreasing how far our Covid carrying spittle would travel. The reasoning was/has always been that the Corona virus can ride along with our spittle from talking, coughing or sneezing. The mask is suppose to keep the spittle from venturing out as far as it would with no mask. This theory is the very reason there is a "mask controversy" to begin with. If any Dr. believed a cloth or paper mask would protect a person from GETTING Covid, then there would be no issue. Want to protect yourself? "wear a mask". If you aren't afraid of Covid, don't wear a mask. But that is not the issue at all. The issue is, "wear a mask so you don't transfer as much Covid virus to others". So the perception of one not wearing a mask is that they don't give a crap if they spread Covid like Typhoid Mary.


There is also the "perception" that if I carry a gun, I want to get into a shootout with someone, and don't give a crap, about shooting innocent people. These "perceptions", are spread by those who wish to control others. I would like the party of "science" to definitively prove, that if I wear a mask, among everyone else wearing a mask, there is no chance of the virus spreading. JMHO
That is one silly analogy. I was simply trying to educate you on why there are different opinions on wearing a mask. Carry on.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:03 am
Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:58 am
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:36 am

NO Dr. EVER claimed that wearing a standard cloth or paper mask would protect "us" from GETTING Covid. What they have said was that wearing a mask helps to protect "others" by decreasing how far our Covid carrying spittle would travel. The reasoning was/has always been that the Corona virus can ride along with our spittle from talking, coughing or sneezing. The mask is suppose to keep the spittle from venturing out as far as it would with no mask. This theory is the very reason there is a "mask controversy" to begin with. If any Dr. believed a cloth or paper mask would protect a person from GETTING Covid, then there would be no issue. Want to protect yourself? "wear a mask". If you aren't afraid of Covid, don't wear a mask. But that is not the issue at all. The issue is, "wear a mask so you don't transfer as much Covid virus to others". So the perception of one not wearing a mask is that they don't give a crap if they spread Covid like Typhoid Mary.


There is also the "perception" that if I carry a gun, I want to get into a shootout with someone, and don't give a crap, about shooting innocent people. These "perceptions", are spread by those who wish to control others. I would like the party of "science" to definitively prove, that if I wear a mask, among everyone else wearing a mask, there is no chance of the virus spreading. JMHO
That is one silly analogy. I was simply trying to educate you on why there are different opinions on wearing a mask. Carry on.
I fully understand why there are differing opinions, I was just pointing out, that there are differing opinions on everything. Opinions, are not facts, That is why I end mine with the JMHO moniker. I fully support everyone's right to their opinions, and will fight to the death, to allow them to freely express them, no matter their alignment with mine. That's why I react so negatively, to government intrusion, or restriction, on my freedom, based on opinions.
As Benjamin Franklin said "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Again, Just My Honest Opinion.
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Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:16 am
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:03 am
Jusme wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:58 am



There is also the "perception" that if I carry a gun, I want to get into a shootout with someone, and don't give a crap, about shooting innocent people. These "perceptions", are spread by those who wish to control others. I would like the party of "science" to definitively prove, that if I wear a mask, among everyone else wearing a mask, there is no chance of the virus spreading. JMHO
That is one silly analogy. I was simply trying to educate you on why there are different opinions on wearing a mask. Carry on.
I fully understand why there are differing opinions, I was just pointing out, that there are differing opinions on everything. Opinions, are not facts, That is why I end mine with the JMHO moniker. I fully support everyone's right to their opinions, and will fight to the death, to allow them to freely express them, no matter their alignment with mine. That's why I react so negatively, to government intrusion, or restriction, on my freedom, based on opinions.
As Benjamin Franklin said "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Again, Just My Honest Opinion.
LOL... I personally don't believe anything we have been fed about Covid so far is based on facts. Every time we blink the "scientists" move the darn goal posts. My personal experience on Covid is from my mom being exposed by a friend of hers who had tested positive but decided to go have lunch before testing negative. This was 1 week before Thanksgiving. My mom then gave it to both my brothers and one of my brothers three kids. All of them except one brother blew right through it like a common cold. One brother ended up hospitalized twice from it and now has permanent lung damage from it. I don't believe the government should have ever issued any kind of mandates. That is not freedom. I am satisfied that the government has now gotten out of the issue. I am not a "masker" but I do respect the rights of those who are to do as they choose. If a privately owned business has a mask required sign, I will take my business elsewhere but will respect their wishes and not attempt to force my beliefs on them. Their business, their rules.
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