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Bitter Clinger wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:17 pm
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Bitter Clinger wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:46 am My question would be what other 2A organization is effective and deserves our participation? I receive constant invitations from, e.g., GOA, NAGR, and more than one Texas based organization, etc., etc. Not sure how to evaluate or which one(s) to throw support behind. I do belong to JPFO but that is an admittedly very small group ;-)

Looking for any recommendations / guidance...Thanks!
I am a member of GOA, TSRA, and JPFO . GOA have a very good record of winning lawsuits for gun rights, and bill themselves as a "no compromise" organization, which means they don't capitulate with gun grabbers. TSRA, mostly concentrate on gun laws in the State. There are others out there, but I haven't found any that I want to join right now.

Here is an opinion piece regarding NAGR from SAF(which I have considered joining) https://www.saf.org/dudley-browns-despicable-deception/

I don't know if any one organization is perfect, and any group that relies on public contributions, can be compromised, or corrupted. JMHO
Just rec'd an email from Texas Gun Rights. They are raising funds off the fact that the new Dallas Chief of Police, coming here from California, is both anti-2A and pro-BLM. Certainly seems believable. I seem to recall reading some mixed reports about TGR. Thoughts?
No, I'm not familiar with them. Doesn't seem to be much info other than their home page about them.
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Bitter Clinger wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:22 pm
srothstein wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:16 pm In addition to some of the points Vol Texan made, especially my distrust of the NY AG, I would point out that the NRA has become primarily a political lobbying organization.* The way most political lobbying is done is through meeting various people and convincing them of our point of view. Many times, these meetings involve social settings, including families, and trips to various places. I trust the board of directors to keep a close eye on what Wayne is really doing and make sure it serves our purposes.

Also, this is not an unusual activity. Again, in addition to the anecdotal evidence provided by Vol Texan, I have done the same thing. In one case, I, along with several other officers, was sent by the San Antonio Police Department to a training class in Las Vegas. You can bet (if you pardon the expression) that our hotel was on the strip and that we all spent some time in casinos and shows while we were there. There is also a police training company that is located in Honolulu and advertises that their classes are five days long but only four hours per day. Care to guess where the rest of the time is spent? but the trip is tax deductible as a job expense for officers.

My first trip to a police convention was the annual union convention. That year it was held in Beaumont. The first item on the official agenda handed out was the "hospitality" suite opening up. The second item listed was the buses loading in front of the hotel to take anyone who wanted to go visit the casino boats in Lake Charles. This one was mostly on my own dime since I was on our union's board of directors at the time and felt I should go, but it does show that many people combine their business and pleasure.

I think this is going to come down to how much you trust the NRA as an organization. A big part of that is how much you agree with what they do. I happen to think it should be a little more aggressive and a lot less compromising, but I also realize that in some cases compromise is the only way to get anything out of the situation. When you think they compromise too much, you might remember and consider the saying that cost Clayton Williams his chance at being governor. There was some truth to it.

* I know that there are other missions, especially educational. I am not sure of how much is spent on each mission to say that the political side is actually their primary side. I just know that our opponents , as well as many of us, see them as a political organization so I can say it is now their de facto primary mission.
I agree with both of your comments and yet there is the matter of appearances, especially when someone is clearly under so much public scrutiny. It would seem that such situations should be avoided if at all possible, almost at all costs, since certain actions which might seem to observers to be in violation of law, but in reality are fully permissible, are themselves not allowed simply in order to prevent onlookers from arriving at a false conclusion.

I agree, but in this day and age of instant info distribution, complete isolationism, is all but impossible. NRA reps, as well as any other 2A group, have to meet with people on all sides of the political spectrum. If LaPierre was seen sharing a meal with a known left wing, progressive politician, he could be viewed as capitulating. If he was seen with a member of a group, who is viewed as a white supremest, it could also have a negative impact. I have not formed an opinion regarding the current status of the NRA simply because as VolTexan pointed out, only one side has been presented. I will say that when they brought Oliver North on board, I became concerned, simply because I felt he was too “deep state” for my tastes. And had no known record of supporting the 2A. I do know that the best way to destroy an organization, is to do so from the inside out. I think that this is what happened to the NRA. They got snookered by people who had other interests at heart. The NY lawsuit, and accompanying MSM hit job, is just a way to turn membership away, and deplete the NRA’s funding. JMHO
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Is a gun rights organization going to boil down like political candidates? Least worst?
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i was dismayed by nra after they sided with Harry Reid in a senate race. I know choosing the lesser of two evils, but WOW he is evil.
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I am wondering if anyone has any experience or can offer any feedback regarding Firearms Policy Coalition (firearmspolicy.org)?
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Bitter Clinger wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:25 am I am wondering if anyone has any experience or can offer any feedback regarding Firearms Policy Coalition (firearmspolicy.org)?
I am a subscriber to their YouTube channel. But I have not contributed, or joined their organization
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NRA files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, moving organization to Texas

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Bitter Clinger wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:58 pm NRA files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, moving organization to Texas

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I wonder if they'll end up in wine country, if you know what I mean.
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Bitter Clinger wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:58 pm NRA files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, moving organization to Texas

fox4news.com/news/nra-files-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection-moving-organization-to-texas
I wonder if they are losing contributing members because of the bad press.
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