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Re: Let's hope Allen West runs for govenor

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:21 pm
by sewtexas
I'm just not sure about West. I've seen some stuff come from him that concerns me. Right now, I'm leaning toward Huffines, but we'll see what happens as we get closer, I've been know to change my mind.

Re: Let's hope Allen West runs for govenor

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:50 pm
by jason812
The military stuff is old news. He says he did it for his men and would do it again. The fact he got a slap on the wrist says it must not have been that bad and also, war is hell. Sometimes men have to do things that are frowned upon. I personally think its a plus and the fact he hasn't tried to hide it or change his story about it, is even better.

If you're going by what is on the other site, remember anything anybody says bad about the NRA leadership is a no-no.

Re: Let's hope Allen West runs for govenor

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:27 pm
by jason812
Questioning Mr. Cotton's disdain for Allen West because Mr. West wants a regime change at the NRA just got me a permanent ban over there. Hahahahaha

Re: Let's hope Allen West runs for govenor

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:53 am
by Bitter Clinger
jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:27 pm Questioning Mr. Cotton's disdain for Allen West because Mr. West wants a regime change at the NRA just got me a permanent ban over there. Hahahahaha
Welcome to the "Cotton Club", brother!πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚πŸ€£

The club is significantly less exclusive than it used to be howeverπŸ™„

Re: Let's hope Allen West runs for govenor

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:33 am
by strogg
jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:27 pm Questioning Mr. Cotton's disdain for Allen West because Mr. West wants a regime change at the NRA just got me a permanent ban over there. Hahahahaha
When I saw that post I whipped out some popcorn. I knew you would get banned for that. Unfortunately, Cotton's reactions to those sorts of posts have been very gestapo-like lately, so there wasn't much of an entertainment factor. I see he did go to his usual "Just wait and see" routine. See what? See how West continually calls out BS when he sees it? A la the NRA? Or wait for a backhanded smear campaign against West?

All things aside, the Iraq incident does not make him a bad guy. He was unwittingly forced to play a bad hand of cards. Poopoo happens. He did what he had to do to protect his men's lives. Here's some objective information below so you can make up your own minds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/worl ... wanted=all
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/12/sprj.n ... index.html

From Wikipedia
Iraq torture incident

While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a plot to ambush his unit. The alleged plot involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, an Iraqi police officer. West had his men detain Hamoodi. Soldiers testified that in the process of detaining Hamoodi, he appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued. Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body. West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head, after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain". At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found. West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."

West was charged with violating Articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers." The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000. West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits as a lieutenant colonel in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can." At his hearing, West said that there were no ambushes against American forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post a month later. After West's retirement he received more than 2,000 letters and e-mails offering him moral support. A letter supporting West was signed by 95 members of the U.S. Congress and sent to the Secretary of the Army.

Re: Let's hope Allen West runs for govenor

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:57 am
by bblhd672
Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:53 am
jason812 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:27 pm Questioning Mr. Cotton's disdain for Allen West because Mr. West wants a regime change at the NRA just got me a permanent ban over there. Hahahahaha
Welcome to the "Cotton Club", brother!πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚πŸ€£

The club is significantly less exclusive than it used to be howeverπŸ™„
I’m still β€œwaiting to see” the proof that anything negative said about the about NRA and it’s leadership is untrue.
Of course Mr. Cotton will strenuously protect his organization against all enemies- both non-members and members who question its leaders..

Re: Let's hope Allen West runs for govenor

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:37 pm
by KBCraig
strogg wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:33 am [When I saw that post I whipped out some popcorn. I knew you would get banned for that. Unfortunately, Cotton's reactions to those sorts of posts have been very gestapo-like lately, so there wasn't much of an entertainment factor.
"Lately".... like, for the last 20 years or so?