Garland attack in 2015

[Bitter Clinger]

Clearly the .45 beats an AK

https://www.ammoland.com/2021/03/how-a- ... and-texas/

Haven't had time to read the lawsuit yet, but find myself wondering if the target of the FBI was conservative Pamela Geller?

[jason812]

The FBI plans and then doesn't try to actively stop a terrorist attack? Then when it goes south, the agent tries to flee? This sounds like the government ordering a hit without having to pull the trigger. The FBI (and most other "law enforcement" agencies) will kick down the doors of small time drug dealers at 2am to stop their street corner enterprise but won't try to stop terrorists with AK's? The FBI had the resources to stop this before they got out of the car and chose not to.

How many times do we read about a fake bomb or fake illegal deal going down to trap the target BEFORE a major crime is committed. Why was this one not stopped? I agree, it would appear that Pamela Geller was a target buy the Obama led in-Justice Dept.

The FBI since its inception has been rife with deception and outright criminal activity sanctioned by the federal government. What other lies and misinformation have we been fed? How about Vegas? Anybody still or ever has believed the FBI narrative? Just remember, it's a crime to lie to the FBI, but not a crime for them to lie to you.

[The Annoyed Man]

The FBI plans and then doesn't try to actively stop a terrorist attack? Then when it goes south, the agent tries to flee? This sounds like the government ordering a hit without having to pull the trigger. The FBI (and most other "law enforcement" agencies) will kick down the doors of small time drug dealers at 2am to stop their street corner enterprise but won't try to stop terrorists with AK's? The FBI had the resources to stop this before they got out of the car and chose not to.

How many times do we read about a fake bomb or fake illegal deal going down to trap the target BEFORE a major crime is committed. Why was this one not stopped? I agree, it would appear that Pamela Geller was a target buy the Obama led in-Justice Dept.

The FBI since its inception has been rife with deception and outright criminal activity sanctioned by the federal government. What other lies and misinformation have we been fed? How about Vegas? Anybody still or ever has believed the FBI narrative? Just remember, it's a crime to lie to the FBI, but not a crime for them to lie to you.

NEVER willingly talk to them without a lawyer present. Ever. Assume that by default, they’re collecting data to be used against you.....EVEN IF they tell you they are investigating something to which they claim to believe you are only a witness. Assume that you are the target of their investigation, even if you have no idea why you’d be investigated, and say nothing without the presence of an attorney.

If they tell you that insisting on the presence of an attorney makes you seem suspect, respond that their agency's corrupt reputation makes them seem suspect....and out of an abundance of caution, you refuse to talk to possibly dirty cops without an attorney present. If they’re honest, give them more reason to rethink whom they work for, and why.

It IS illegal to lie to the Security Branch of the DNC (AKA “FBI”), but so far as I know, it is NOT illegal to refuse to answer their questions outside of a grand jury. Make them spend money to get the answers.....even if you’re innocent of any wrong-doing or law-breaking at all.

There’s are two very good treason why this type of intransigence is necessary:

1. To protect yourself from FBI corruption

2. To push good FBI agents toward an understanding that their personal reputations, honor, and integrity are at stake if they continue to work in a corrupt agency's salt mine.

The more agents that can be persuaded to quit and pursue more honorable law-enforcement career paths, the more hollowed out and corrupt the FBI will become, until even Congress and whomever the sitting POTUS is come to the conclusion that it’s a useless agency that needs to be scrapped. The agency’s reputation must become so tarnished that decent people will no longer consider a career in the FBI.

Of course, this all depends on the United States remaining intact, status quo.

A couple of nights ago, my wife and I finished watching the HBO 5-part miniseries titled "Chernobyl". (If you have the chance, you should watch it. It is very faithful to books I’ve read on the subject.) In that series, you become aware of just how central the KGB was to USSR policy-making. They were more than just an intelligence/counter-intelligence/law-enforcement agency. They were actually part of shaping Soviet policy. To anyone watching the FBI's involvement in election meddling, it should become apparent that the FBI is our KGB. They meddle in policy-making by overtly influencing elections. And if they’re brazenly doing that in the open, who the hell knows what they’re doing in secret to influence politics?

The FBI is dirty, plain and simple. It has no more legitimacy.

[bblhd672]

The FBI is dirty, plain and simple.

Has been since it's inception.

[srothstein]

NEVER willingly talk to them without a lawyer present. Ever.

I would go one step further and leave off the part about having a lawyer present. Never talk to an FBI agent doing an investigation, PERIOD.

Assume that by default, they’re collecting data to be used against you.....EVEN IF they tell you they are investigating something to which they claim to believe you are only a witness. Assume that you are the target of their investigation, even if you have no idea why you’d be investigated, and say nothing without the presence of an attorney.

If they tell you that insisting on the presence of an attorney makes you seem suspect, respond that their agency's corrupt reputation makes them seem suspect....and out of an abundance of caution, you refuse to talk to possibly dirty cops without an attorney present. If they’re honest, give them more reason to rethink whom they work for, and why.

It IS illegal to lie to the Security Branch of the DNC (AKA “FBI”), but so far as I know, it is NOT illegal to refuse to answer their questions outside of a grand jury. Make them spend money to get the answers.....even if you’re innocent of any wrong-doing or law-breaking at all.

This last line is the real secret. The SCOTUS has ruled that it is perfectly acceptable for the police to lie to you about almost anything. A common trick used by the FBI is to tell you that you are not the target of the investigation when you really are or when they are still fishing for who to include. And a second common trick is to get you to say something that is not quite exactly 100% true, then indict you for lying to them. They hope to convince you to turn others in by indicting you and then saying they will drop it if you cooperate. DO NOT BELIEVE THEM.

Look at how many people have been convicted recently during major investigations (like the spying on Trump/Russian collusion investigation) and see who has been convicted and what for. No one is convicted for any underlying actual crimes, but they get convicted for lying to the FBI. Even Martha Stewart was convicted of lying about things, not for the "insider trading" she was accused of.

If you have information about a real federal crime (and there are few that belong in that category), give it to the FBI as an anonymous tip that cannot be traced back to you.

I have worked with the FBI in the past and I think there are still a few good men working as agents there. My reservations about that are growing, but I think there are still a few. I would love to see the good ones convinced to go to a real agency and help their home town and neighborhood instead.

I do not think the FBI is as bad as the KGB yet, but they are moving more and more in that direction every day.